So sorry, it helps to share what you're feeling here, know that we care.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
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Death,dying,mourning...more death
by Panda init's almost 2 months since nick died.
i miss him much more, not less.
last week i had our dog chloe euthanised.
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If you DA yourself are you giving in to the GB?
by bronzefist ini'm not criticizing anyone's decision to da themselves...just wondering what the advantages are.. if the whole da thing is something made up by the gb why make them happy by playing by their rules?
how are they hurt by your decision?
why not just walk away?
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
My husband and I feel that we should DA so that we're off their member list for our own protection.
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Well, well, the elder FINALLY called and want to meet again!!!
by Lady Liberty insorry but my font size is all screwed up for some reason!.
let me start out by saying grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
my husband told him he would talk with me and get back to him.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
So sorry you were spoken to like that by a dear family member. They suck. They make good people suck. They make good people say horrible things that they would never say ordinarily. It is just like the Borg, they implant things in their heads and they do what the collective wills, and those people who were good people and our loved ones, well they're just gone.
It sucks. I'm sorry. You are loved, don't forget it.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
It was the first thing I read when my fade became truly permanent. A non-Hoho friend pointed out a NYTimes mag article about Joy's book, her finding it was a gift, I'll tell you. . .I ordered 3 copies. They are still circulating among my friends and co-workers.
The book is fabulous, it was also the first book my husband ever read for enjoyment (aka NOT meeting prep), and he cried because it mirrored his life so closely.
I emailed Joy, thanked her for the assurance and enlightenment the work provided us. It is as far from bitter as one can get after an experience like hers.
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Suspicious JW activity? Anyone else had a visit lately?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inlast sunday, two elders came to our place, we peeked and didn't answer.
it's their first visit since their last and only visit 2 years ago.. my dad called yesterday to say hi, i told him i was confused by his call since, i reminded him, he and my mom and my sisters and brother disowned me.
he even said they want to come for a visit, and they miss me (out of state), i told him that seems off.
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Last Sunday, two elders came to our place, we peeked and didn't answer. It's their first visit since their last and only visit 2 years ago.
My dad called yesterday to say hi, I told him I was confused by his call since, I reminded him, he and my mom and my sisters and brother disowned me. He even said they want to come for a visit, and they miss me (out of state), I told him that seems off. He doesn't seem to remember the bitterness with which he and the others spoke to me--he said that in spite of my situation I'm still his daughter. I asked him what my situation is, he said that I left Jeh--ah, I added, that 'I'm in active', he said yes, and that as long as it doesn't become more that than, he's still my father. I reminded him that they told me I must be on drugs, and they said that they are no longer my parents, he said that's in the past and that as long as there's a chance. . .blah blah blah. . .He also asked for my address and we talked for 20 minutes. Of course, I was suspicious.
I am going to call him this afternoon to end the mind game. My husband and I are going to send a DA letter soon, but I wonder if I have a chance to open my dad's eyes, he's a mild person, and an elder and RP like my mom. He does everything she orders him to do as she is a terrible controlling bitch, but my dad's always been a kind person except for when my mom makes him say nasty things.
Any thoughts? Anyone had any recent surprise visits or calls?
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WHY?
by Dansk innot too long ago a new kingdom hall was built in bury, near where i live.
it is frequented by two congregations, whitefield and bury.
both have problems and are losing members (let's face it, with my family alone whitefield lost 5 .
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
How about the Brooklyn real estate, and the new projects, purchases and renovations there!? We're talking about some of the most expensive real estate on the planet, so why don't they sell it all, move the whole operation out here to southern Colorado where land is cheap. Then THEY can contribute to the worldwide work and to KH builds. Sick, sick.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
I'm with minimus, I'm about to leave work at almost 8pm Saturday (car biz), had a productive day, sold cars and won 2 Broncos tix on the 50 yard line for tomorrow. And to think I used to hate Sundays. . .
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Letter Writing Campaign. . .who's in?!?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit injimwood and someone else suggested a letter writing campaign, bombarding the wts with letters old and new on any topic, complaint, issue and problem.
participation, dates and suggestions would be appreciated!
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
A 2 week period would likely be easier to plan and do for most. . .How does September 1-15 sound? I know I could easily send 10 different letters and maybe a few copies in that time, and some might want to send several all at once, and even just one would be fabulous!!!
Thoughts?
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What Kinds of Weird Things were you banned from or not allowed as a child?
by mama1119 ini could not have a big new kids on the block pin, or wear any new kids on the block pins in puplic becuase it was considered idolatry.
i also could not wear my shoes without laces (it was cool back then) because it looked wordly.
what other strange theings besides the usual holiday/birthday stuff weren't you allowed to do?
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
Scooby Doo. Rock and roll, sometimes, then sometimes it was ok. Lucky Charms cereal. Friends outside and friends inside, my mom believed that all I needed was her and my bible. R rated movies, then PG13 movies, then PG movies went away too--my parents had an assembly part about protecting your children from bad entertainment, where my dad said that PG meant 'pure garbage'.
In 2nd grade, my teacher said I was smart and should be in the gifted class, but my mother reasoned that it was drawing to much attention to ME by participating, so I abstained and remained bored in school. Then she pointed out that the Ute book had an chapter about boredom, I was then not allowed to be bored any longer.
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Did Leaving the Organization Make you Feel *Alive*?
by Mysterious indid you have moments after you left the organization when you felt alive for the first time?
when you realized that you had just been drudging around with your head down, enduring rather than living.
when that huge burden was lifted from your shoulders and you saw the world not for the place of darkness and pain that the witnesses made it out to be but for all the wonder in it?
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
Yes! Like I woke up from a coma. Friends, food, vacations, all are tastier now!